if washington is not coming up with new ideas why not debate it i am cheryl casone and welcome to cash in . we have johnathon and tracey and john . jill joining us. wayne we'll start with you. is it time for a national lottery to pay down the federal debt same time. >> a question why not. if it works with the state governments. why not the federal government and make it a big and huge one and any little niche that you can knock down the deficit is good. >> okay, but john, what happens to the states. we are finding out that california is signing up for powerball because of the revenues that they get. is it bad for states. >> it is really bad for states. wayne has much chance of winning the lottery as geth through a comment without johnathon interrupting. >> zero. >> and the problem you have with this. this could be a billion dollar jack mots and huge and going to kill the state lottos and in the stouthern states. they were sold as a way of funding education . that didn't happen. they are dependent on the general fund. cash strapped states that depend on the lotto, you will cripple the f